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Erm...The Harry Potter Maxicon?

  • Apr. 28th, 2008 at 11:09 PM
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I heard that a link to this website was posted on The Leaky Cauldron earlier today. Its intention is obviously mean-spirited ("How does it feel, Steve?"), aside from the copyright issue of exactly reproducing parts of the Lexicon. (I'm not certain it reproduces the entire Lexicon, since many of the links seem not to work.)

So, if anyone cares, I found reference to it here in the last comment to this post - [info]mcrux claims to have done this. S/He also apparently posted a similar claim in response to an article on AuburnPub.com. (It seems the article is no longer available - at least, I couldn't access it.) There was also a similar post on starpulse.com by "macklincrux" and here by "Max Crux". And, there are several other websites on which this comment is repeated, but I won't bother listing them all.

ETA: With a minimal amount of junior detective work using Google, as well as an initial boost from [info]a_waffling, I was able to find the name, home address, home phone number, and cell phone number of the person responsible for this nasty "prank". Apparently, he's not so clever...



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[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 04:00 am (UTC)
Good Sleuthing, Clair! I know that is your specialty.

What a pathetic and mean thing to do. That's probably someone who's never worked on anything worthwhile in their entire life, but they like to tear down other people's ideas. Stupid jerk.
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 04:17 am (UTC)
I also took a few screencaps of those posts in case they disappear. Too bad about the AuburnPub link because I can't get it to stay open.
[info]lunas_ceiling wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 05:54 am (UTC)
There doesn't seem to any end to the childish ways fans seek to involve themselves in this court case. It is almost impossible to ignore the desire to ruin this man because he did not and could not lay down as Mugglenet did. New lines are crossed everyday. This is terribly sad.
[info]clair_de_lalune wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 10:52 pm (UTC)
--It is almost impossible to ignore the desire to ruin this man because he did not and could not lay down as Mugglenet did.--

I just don't get why people have that desire. :-/
[info]a_waffling wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 12:23 pm (UTC)
You can add LL's "davidenglish" to the list of somebodies pinting to that webpage: he just wrote over at LL:
"

The HP-Lexicon website appears to be down. (500-Internal Server Error)

But someone has done a spoof website, The Harry Potter Maxicon. Or is it a hijack?

"
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 12:37 pm (UTC)
Well, it doesn't surprise me that he would post that - anything for excitement over there.
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 01:03 pm (UTC)
I am wondering why the HP Lexicon server is down, though, at the same time this Maxicon clone appeared. That worries me a litt.e
[info]a_waffling wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 01:39 pm (UTC)
I'd guess it's just a real innocent technical problem. If you move (or delete) something that should result in a 404 or 301 or 307 or 409.

"Access denied" should result in 401 or 403.

[info]a_waffling wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 02:29 pm (UTC)
HPL is up again.
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 02:52 pm (UTC)
That's good news!
[info]a_waffling wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 01:32 pm (UTC)
And it has been taken up by other posters (rather approvingly, the way I read it).

And up to now no moderator has stepped in to delete these postings, part of IMO point to illegal material (assuming that Maxicon has no license to use HPL graphics, texts, etc. ...). Well, as I often said: I don't know about USA law. But over here: I'd feel to be in duty to prevent such things on my own forum ... .

Nasty. And sad.
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 02:51 pm (UTC)
You are right - in the U.S. that shouldn't be allowed either, and on most forums they would delete that sort of 'glorification' of malicious mischief.

I remember when JKR's Official Site first appeared, hackers were posting on Chamber of Secrets Forum that they were trying to break in behind the closed door, and it made alot of us uncomfortable because that's truly illegal to hack anyone's website.

Some people just enjoy taking pleasure in other people's misfortune.:(
(Anonymous) wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 03:02 pm (UTC)
Mcrux
I went to mcrux's LiveJournal page. URL here:

http://mcrux.livejournal.com/profile

This is not a young kid. This person is 48 years old and really needs to get a life if this is how they get their kicks.

If this is a hack, I really and truly hope they go to jail.
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 09:25 pm (UTC)
Re: Mcrux
Hmm, hi, Anonymous . . . well, as you see, that LJ has only been set up for about four days, and the only friends are Livejournal Maintenance.
http://mcrux.livejournal.com/profile

http://mcrux.livejournal.com/friends

The first LJ message is on April 24, not long before all this started.

So it's probably what they call a "sockpuppet" account. That's not a real person, and probably a made-up birthday. So you can't judge from that how old a person really is - funny that they are exactly as old as the Marauders (I was also born in 1960). That could be their joke about Sirius Black's unknown birthday for all we know.
[info]alwaysholly wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 03:53 pm (UTC)
That is not right. How very rude. *eyeroll*
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 05:38 pm (UTC)
Here's the statement a Leaky Mod put earlier on the Leaky Lounge - enjoy the spin but it might make you dizzy. According to them all is well and this is just a little parody, and no need to discuss it:

Guys, the Lexicon site is just busy; it's not been hijacked or anything like that. The Leaky techies are working to fix it. The 500 error just means that the server needs rebooting, since it's having a tough time keeping up with the load. It's done the same thing on other busy days.

About the Maxicon site: as others have pointed out, it's been around already for a short while now. For the purposes of this thread, while we appreciate that parodies like Maxicon are valuable to a free-speech society, this particular one really isn't relevant to this case or this discussion topic. If there really is some new, factual information about the case to be gleaned, that's certainly on-topic; otherwise it's in poor taste and off-topic, so let's please steer away from discussing it.

Thanks guys!

--NickTLC
11:48 AM
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 05:44 pm (UTC)
To clarify my last post - I'm glad they aren't going to allow discussion on the forum, but they also didn't delete any posts about it, and they say it isn't relevant to the topic, when obviously it is, but not as a joke or parody.

You would think it would bother them that someone could copy all that since it is on Leaky's server. Why aren't they worried about a copy of Leaky appearing or their private messages or something?

And isn't it ironic that the Lexicon site is so busy it is crashing the server? That's the best thing I've ever read. So maybe it's a useful website after all?
[info]clair_de_lalune wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 10:55 pm (UTC)
--You would think it would bother them that someone could copy all that since it is on Leaky's server.--

Yeah, you'd think... *rolls eyes*
[info]cynodd wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 07:13 pm (UTC)
parodies like Maxicon

Is it a parody? It looked like a straight-out copy, with only a name change, but I'm not really familiar with the Lexicon, nor did I spend much time looking at the Maxicon. Parodies are protected speech, to a point, but I don't think this qualifies. But if this is a parody, it's a bad one, as it didn't seem at all funny. :)
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 09:28 pm (UTC)
I don't think that is a parody, either. Someone needs to get a real dictionary and look up that word. Parody implies some sort of "wit," of which this has none.
[info]clair_de_lalune wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 11:02 pm (UTC)
I agree that it's not a parody - a parody would be similar, but not the same. This is a direct copy.

BTW, I just went to look at it again to see if there were any differences other than "Max" being written over "Lex" and the snide remark to Steve; but, I'm only getting a message saying that the page cannot be displayed. Hopefully, it's down for good. :)
(pas de sujets) - [info] - Apr. 29th, 2008 05:43 pm (UTC)
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 09:27 pm (UTC)
Maybe the person's real name is "Max," or "Mac" or something like that.

When I first saw it, I thought it was a really derogatory play on the word "maxi-pad," which is a feminine napkin in the U.S.

Whatever it is, it isn't friendly, and it's certainly not funny.
(pas de sujets) - [info] - Apr. 30th, 2008 09:02 am (UTC)
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 11:29 am (UTC)
*lol* That's hilarious!

If the Maxicon was really a copy of the Lexicon, then it would also be a "copy" of the HP Books, which JKR said outraged her. So the Maxicon wasn't just breaking Steve's copyright, he was breaking JKR's copyright!

*snort*

Plus, according to JKR, the Maxicon would also be seen as lazy and sloppy, haha. So what did he prove?
[info]clair_de_lalune wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 11:03 pm (UTC)
I think the person who did it is named "Max" and he just substituted his name for "Lex".
[info]cynodd wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 07:08 pm (UTC)
Why is it that some people think that if they think someone has done something wrong, a malicious response is justified?

All the crazed JKR fans who are so illogically and rabidly against the lexicon, which they probably all used before the case came up, should just sit down, and wait for the case to work itself out. If JKR wins, let the legal system mete out what justice needs to be done. If she loses, well, maybe her case was... um... wrong? (Or do people think she's incapable of being wrong, because she happens to write beloved fiction?)
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 09:08 pm (UTC)
I'm afraid you've got it exactly right. It's sort of like vigilante justice - they don't think the courts will get it right, no matter what happens. So they have to "punish" Steve in advance just in case the Judge rules in his favor.
[info]clair_de_lalune wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 11:10 pm (UTC)
Sadly, that seems to be true.

If anyone wants to see the worst of fandom, check out the comments here. The entries having to do with the Lexicon are all from cleolinda.
[info]rattlesnakeroot wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 05:45 am (UTC)
Well, I knew if I actually read some of the Wankster comments that this would turn up - sound familiar?

Link Here

"I'm wary of bringing up the jealousy argument but I think that's really at the heart of a lot of this. That and bitter snapefen/shipperfen/voldiefen insanity."

Hahahahahaha - when you have no real legal arguments left, please blame the Snapefen. *lol* It never fails, does it? I don't know what we are supposed to be jealous about, so it's like the argument that fits everything.

Who are we "shipping" now? Oh yeah - Snape and Lily: The Ship that Actually Came True. :)

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